If PWK were one mana cheaper I think it would be a big win for doomsday but I think I will keep playing eliminates for narset, oko, and dack.

@fsecco the question was if you could find zuran orb off this and sacrifice it to the zuran orb, not if you could sacrifice this with the trigger on the stack in general.

@lienielsen
I'm aware of chain of smog. I just like the idea of building a deck with a bunch of cards that are good on their own. Chain of Smog doesn't really fit that niche.

@thewhitedragon69 said in [STX] Crackle with Power:

if they have any X/2+ blocker

the BSC will be a 23/23, so blockers typically won't matter

I could see this in some kind of turbo-tinker-time vault deck. 4x transmute, 4x this, mystical, power blue, 8x FoW/FoN (maybe daze) 8x(ish) keys, tinker, time vault. You can run BSC as a plan B and Tezzeret 1.0 as a plan C - and a couple hurkyll's main to hedge vs shops as well as tutor for with StE and remove null rods. You just assemble TV/key as close to turn 1 as possible and pitch-counter to prevent game losses or crippling plays. Once you get Vault/key going, your plan B or C become the win.

I tried a turbo tinker deck some time ago, but it was before FoN/Manifold Key printings. There might be enough redundancy with "mystical 2-5" now to make a go of it.

Channel/Mirror seems fun (noted not meant as competitive), but more mana constraining and less likely to just turn 1 "oops, I miser drew my combo that needs no color requirement." Lots of games have ended with "mox, crypt, land...thanks for playing". This seems to just give that same scenario a lot more probability of happening turn 2.

@lienielsen said in [STX] Harness Infinity:

I believe there has been a green card printed in the last few years that has a similar effect - for the point of comparison if someone can recall the name of that card, I’d love to take a look at it.

Praetor's Council regrowths your whole graveyard and gives you no maximum hand size for the rest of the game for 5GGG. doesn't cost you your current hand in the process, and lets you keep everything you get if you somehow have to pass the turn

@blindtherapy I like the combo with this witch (also witherbloom apprentice) and chain of smog. Trying to get it to be consistent...kind of charbelcher-ish. Pulls off a lot of turn 1-2 wins with unmask leads though.

This could be good if we ever get another iteration on the riddlesmith style blue bazaar decks.

@botvinik It can also get Demonic Tutor, Balance, Abrade, Hurkyl's Recall, even Abrupt Decay or Assassin's Trophy should one be on a 4C pile.

@horologium

I addresses the Dreadnought issue in my first post. [[Torpor Orb]] is just better, that's why we went looking for non-creature cards that this could help. But Dreadnought isn't good enough for Vintage and I feel this effect isn't either.

Lotus Field already has [[Blood Sun]], which seems better because it's more disruptive against other opponents, draws a card and makes Field come into play untapped. My point was just that it didn't do what op thought it did and that unless we find a card that wins the game if you counter its ETB, I don't think this is good at all.

@fsecco said in [STX] Expressive Rehearsal:

Also, one important thing: I haven't seen the Oracle text in this card yet. The way it's translated says "you can PLAY the exiled card". If by any chance this was mistranslated and it says CAST, then it's REALLY bad.

I checked the card image gallery, where wotc puts things up in english after spoilers. it's play.
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@thewhitedragon69 said in [STX] and [MH2] Abundant Harvest:

Is this new? I thought these were reprints + new Strixhaven cards.

It's a "reprint" from MH2. I think that was originally earlier on the release schedule and got moved past Strixhaven.

@blindtherapy said in [STX] and [MH2] Abundant Harvest:

that works. i'm not sure how much better green source + this beats just playing green land + crop rotation, of course.

One upside if you are looking for small edges is that the cards you reveal go to the bottom in random order, so if you note how many dredgers, forces, etc wind up down there you can update your mental math when calculating what you will draw from a Bazaar or might dredge. If you see all 4 bridges go to the bottom you may change your approach to the game.

@chubbyrain1

I cat the showdowns for FOF and now I think I am playing keeper, even more surprisingly its been working.

The other issue is 3 is actually full of scary things like mentor oko dack trinisphere and hullbreacher.

@vaughnbros
That seems like an excellent inclusion. However I often find myself short on mana vs these decks so I would rather play the bolt.

Recent oath lists playing rune-scarred demon like this one have mostly been using it to set up a kill using underworld breach. Getting two pieces of the combo seems pretty good and can be fairly resilient letting you make a pile from breach, lotus, brain freeze or sevinne's reclamation depending on what you need/what you milled over with oath.

Usually not better than cage but if you have a lot of 2 card monte or storm in your meta it might make the cut if you are already running leylines to help conserve slots.

@john-cox Definitely. Uro is busted. This thing is not even close and just enables so-far-unplayable giants.

Idk, I personally might try this in my own Draw7 combo deck. Draw 7 and get 7 mana for my belcher? I'm game to try it out.